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Meeting Summary
Governance Committee
18 Jan 2016 - 14:00 to 16:05
Scheduled
  • Documents
  • Attendance
  • Visitors
  • Declarations of Interests

Documents

Agenda

Standard Items
1 APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE
To receive any apologies for absence. 


2

An apology for absence was received from Councillor Walker.

2 DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST

You have a Disclosable Pecuniary Interest in a matter to be discussed if it relates to something on your Register of Interests form. You must declare the interest and leave the room while the matter is dealt with.

You have a Personal Interest in a matter to be discussed if it affects
•    your well being or financial position
•    that of your family or close friends
•    that of a club or society in which you have a management role
•    that of another public body of which you are a member to a greater extent than others in your ward.
You must declare a personal interest but can speak and vote on the matter.

Whenever you declare an interest you must say why the interest arises, so that it can be included in the minutes. 

3

There were no declarations of interest.

3 EXCLUSION OF PUBLIC
In the event of the Committee wishing to exclude the public from the meeting, the following resolution will be moved:-

"That under Section 100(A)(4) of the Local Government Act 1972, the public be excluded from the meeting for the following item of business on the grounds that it involved the likely disclosure of exempt information as defined in paragraph 1 of Part I of Schedule 12(A) of the said Act."

4

The Committee agreed that Governance Committee should meet in public and agreed therefore that public should not be excluded from this meeting.

4 APPOINTMENT OF CHAIRMAN
To appoint a Chairman of the Governance Committee.

1

RESOLVED :

That Councillor Plant be appointed Chairman of the Governance Committee.

To consider the CEO's report that was approved at the Council Meeting on the 21st December 2015 (copy attached).

5

The Committee was reminded that Council at its meeting on the 21st December 2015 had agreed the following :-
  1. To approve the creation of a Committee as detailed in the Chief Executive Officers Report.
  2. To settle the Terms of Reference of the Committee.
  3. To approve the proposed budget for the change in Governance.
  4. To require the Governance Committee to formulate proposals, which are as far as possible, cost neutral.
The Cabinet Secretary reported that Council when considering this matter had agreed to amend (4) above by the inclusion of the words "without comprising on the efficiency of the decision making of the Council".


6 Q&A SESSION
The Committee will undertake a Q&A Session with the Consultant John Cade.

6

John Cade detailed his background of experience in respect of dealing with Governance issues for Local Government. Mr Cade stated that the agreement of Structures and Cultures will be very important and he reminded the Governance Committee that following the decision at Council, Great Yarmouth Borough Council was now locked into a Committee Form of Governance for the next 5 years. He referred to the Terms of Reference as detailed in the Chief Executive Officers report which he fully endorsed.

Mr Cade advised Members that he had recently carried out work at Cambridge in respect of a change to a Committee Form of Governance and that following 9 months of operation Members of the Council in Cambridge had stated that they had liked the fact that under this system Councillors were now more engaged in the decision making process; they had a greater sense of collective ownership; and that there was a broader spectrum of Councillors wishes being acknowledged. The issues that the Cambridge Members disliked were that reports to committees were too lengthy; too many operational issues were presented to Committees and the role and remit of the Policy Committee needed greater clarity; and that generally too many items were being presented to Committees for consideration.

Councillor Wainwright reported that the Labour group had considered a structure for a Committee System and he presented his Groups details as follows :-

Principles

Committees can make decisions balanced with a Call In Procedure (as per the current Cabinet System), so that decisions made at Committee could take effect after a agreed number of days if not called in. The Scrutiny and Audit and Risk Committees could merge to form a new Oversight Committee with the Chair not being from the ruling party. Key decisions taken by Full Council where rules could be set (e.g. expenditure/saving One Hundred Thousand Pounds), Policy decisions and that Committees should be restricted to spending their own Budget within rules.

The Labour group were proposing the establishment of the following Committees :-

  • Economic Development, Tourism and Regeneration Committee
  • Environmental Health Committee
  • Neighbourhood Committee
  • Housing Management Committee
  • Policy, General Purposes and Resources Committee
The regulatory Committees of Planning and Licensing would continue as at present. As previously stated it was proposed to have an over size Committee combining Audit and Risk and Scrutiny Committees.

Partnership/Outside Bodies

Councillor Wainwright raised the issue of how do we work with our Partners to hold them to account. He suggested Partnerships should be married to Committee so for example Preservation Trust would come under the Economic development Committee.

Contracts

Councillor Wainwright reported on the issue of how do we manage Contracts and set Award Contracts. Monitoring could be carried out at corresponding Committee however awarding contracts cuts across Finance and Service so both may have a role . he raised the issue of a joint Service and Finance Meeting as and when needed.

Councillor Wainwright also stated that all Committees should be subject to the Widdecombe Process where by all Committees would be politicly balanced and he also suggested that the Chairs of the agreed Committees should be divided amongst the Political Groups on the Council.

The Chairman suggested that the Officers should come back with a recommendation with regard to the suggested Committees as outlined above, fully costed up.

The Chief Executive Officer asked the Committee to agree Key Principles in respect of a Committee Form of Governance and the Committee agreed that 3 Key Principles would be :-

  1. To align the Committees in accordance with the Borough Councils Corporate Plan.
  2. Oversight through a Policy and Resources/General Purposes Committee.
  3. Determination of how Chairs are appointed.
  4. The Policy/General Purposes Committee should have responsibility for the strategic direction of the Council.
Councillor Myers commented that in his opinion there should be a maximum of five Committees with an overall Policy Committee. He also suggested that representatives form each political groups should come up with their own proposals for a Committee Structure to determine if there is common ground amongst all the political groups.

David Johnson confirmed that it would be possible to establish a Call In System of Committee decisions that have been made. With regard to Chairs of Committees he suggested that this may have to written specifically into the revised Constitution.

The Governance Committee agreed that all political groups should formulate their own proposals for a Committee Structure.

As a result of the discussions at the meeting, Mr Cade stated that he understood the wishes of Members were as follows :-

  1. That there should be a Policy/General Purposes Committee established
  2. Committees need to align to the Corporate Plan
  3. Retention of the current regulatory Committees (i.e.. Development Control, Licensing, Audit and Risk)
  4. To determine the role of an Oversight/Audit Committee
  5. Certain decisions could be referred upwards to either a Policy Committee or Council, if the Committee thought it appropriate.
  6. Policy Committee could have a level of delegation to be agreed
  7. Committees to spend within their own Budgets 
  8. Public Consultation to be coordinated by Full Council, protocol by Policy and Resources/General Purposes Committee.
  9. Council will set the scheme of delegation.
  10. Urgent decisions to be carried out by Group Leaders.
  11. Retention of the Public Speaking Protocols as at present.
  12. The protocol for setting up Working Groups to be left to the Policy and Resources Committee to determine. 
With regard to the frequency of Committee Meetings, the Governance Committee generally of the opinion that it seemed most appropriate for this to be based on a six weekly cycle of meetings. With regard to Membership of Committee it was generally agreed that numbers on Committees should be no greater than 13 as at present.

The issue of delegated powers to Officers would also need to be reviewed.

In response to a question from Councillor Thirtle, David Johnson confirmed that the revised and amended Constitution would be completed in time for the Committee System adoption in May 2016. David Johnson also referred to the establishment of a Independent Review Panel that had been set up by North Norfolk District Council to consider Members allowances and it was suggested that this panel be asked if they would be willing to consider Members allowances on behalf of Great Yarmouth Borough Council. The Governance Committee agreed that Council at its meeting on the 26th January should be asked to agree to the establishment of an Independent Review Panel on the lines detailed above.


7 TIMETABLE OF MEETINGS
To agree the following timetable of meetings:-

  • Tuesday 2 February 2016 at 2:00pm
  • Tuesday 1 March 2016 at 2:00pm
  • Thursday 24 March 2016 at 10:00am


7

The Committee agreed to the following Timetable of Meetings :- 
  • Tuesday 2 February 2016 at 2:00pm
  • Tuesday 1 March 2016 at 2:00pm
  • Thursday 24 March 2016 at 10:00am

8 ANY OTHER BUSINESS
To consider any other business as may be determined by the Chairman of the meeting as being of sufficient urgency to warrant consideration.
8

The Chairman had not been informed of any other business.

Attendance

Attended - Other Members
Name
No other member attendance information has been recorded for the meeting.
Apologies
NameReason for Sending Apology
Brian Walker 
Absent
NameReason for Absence
No absentee information has been recorded for the meeting.

Declarations of Interests

Member NameItem Ref.DetailsNature of DeclarationAction
No declarations of interest have been entered for this meeting.

Visitors

PRESENT :

Councillors Annison, Carpenter, Grey, Myers, Plant, Thirtle, T Wainwright and Williamson.

Mrs S Oxtoby (Interim Chief Executive Officer), Mr D Johnson (nplaw), Mr R Hodds (Cabinet Secretary), Mr J Cade (Consultant)


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